From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Sat Jul 24 04:22:22 1999 Return-Path:Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id EAA24958 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id DAA02138 for pkd-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:10:46 -0700 Received: from www1.xoommail.com (colo01-031.xoom.com [206.132.179.31]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA02135 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:10:44 -0700 Received: (from service@localhost) by www1.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10958; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199907241100.EAA10958@www1.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: zebe Subject: [PKD] Music references in Flow My Tears To: cjane01@students.bbk.ac.uk, pkd@jazzflavor.com Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR Ok here’s the report on Flow My Tears. If you want a different format let me know. Each of the four sections of the novel is introduced by a quatrain from Dowland’s ‘Lachrimae Antiquae Pavan’. Chapter 10 Moodily, General Buckman opened the third drawer of the large desk and place a tape reel in the small transport he kept there. Dowland airs for four voices... he stood listening to one which he enjoyed very much, among all the songs in Dowland’s lute books. ...For now left and forlorn I sit, I sigh, I weep, I faint, I die In deadly pain and endless misery. The first man, Buckman mused, to write a piece of abstract music. He removed the tape and put in the lute one, and stood listening to ‘lachrimae Antiquae Paven. From this, he said to himself, came, at last, Beethoven’s final quartets. And everythign else. Except Wagner. He detested Wagner. Wagner and those like him, such as |Berlioz, had set music back three centuries. Until Karlheinz Stockhausen in his ‘Gesang der Junglinge’ had once more brought music up to date. ... And, lstening once again to the ‘lachrimae Antiquae Paven’ thought, Flow, my tears... Chapter 19 - Alys Buckman ‘We have a good collection of Rilke and Brecht in interlinear translation disks. The other day Felix came home with a quad and light set of all seven Sibelius symphonies.’ Chapter 22 - describing Mary Anne Dominic. She probably lived in a world of pots, clay, brown wrapping paper, troubles with her little old Ford Greyhound, and, in the background, the sound of the stereo only voices of the old-time greats: Judy Collins and Joan Baez. Chapter 24 - Felix Buckman on his ‘marriage’ ‘So what?’ Buckman said. ‘Haven’t you read the libretto to Die Walkure?’ tremblingly, he lit another cigarette. ‘Sigmunde and Sieglinde. "Schwester und Braut" Sister and bride. And the hell with Hunding.’ Chapter 27 - Felix Buckman again Flow My Tears, he thought, the first piece of abstract music ever written. John Dowland in his second lute book in 1600. I’ll play it on that big new quad phonograph of mine when I get home. Where it can remind me of Alys and all the rest of them. Where there will be a symp[hony and a fire and it will be warm. And that’s it for real recordings. I’ll briefly mention the fictional music of the book seeing as the main character is a ballad singer! His records include the single ‘Nowhere Nuthin’ fuckup’, and his album titles include Taverner and the Blue Blue Blues and There’ll be a good time with Taverner tonight (Chapters 18 & 20). Heather Hart’s album is called the Heart of Hart. In Chapter 21 Jason is in a cafe where they are playing Louis Panda’s ‘Memory of your nose’. There is also a fashion at the time for ‘pornochords’. Alys Buckman mentions one titled ‘Go Down Moses’ in Chapter 7. ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Tue Jul 27 18:06:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id SAA28376 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id RAA05508 for pkd-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:05:33 -0700 Received: from WC.STEPHENS.EDU (wc.stephens.edu [204.185.32.1]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05505 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:05:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:00:35 -0500 Message-Id: <99072720003545@wc.stephens.edu> From: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu (TOM DILLINGHAM) To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: [PKD] This is too brief to be offensive X-VMS-To: SMTP%"pkd@jazzflavor.com" Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR From: COSMO::TOMDILL "TOM DILLINGHAM" 27-JUL-1999 11:58:29.53 To: SMTP%"cjane01@students.bbk.ac.uk" CC: TOMDILL Subj: Musical References: _In Milton Lumky Territory_ PKD seems to have imagined and represented Milton Lumky territory as a nearly music-free environment. In 215 pages, there are only three direct references to anything musical. p. 14: Bruce Stevens arrives at a former girl-friend's house: "In the living room a number of persons sat about with drinks, listening to the phonograph plaing Johnny Ray records." p. 27: Bruce Stevens and Susan Faine are talking about their first encounter: "'Of course,' he said, 'people always say that.' 'A "Some Enchanged Evening" sort of thing.' She smiled, 'instantaneous identification of the beloved.'" p. 52: Bruce Stevens remembers his childhood as "repetitious and futile" except for his encounter with classical music. "The _Gazette_ had run an offer to mail out phonograph records of great symphonic masterpieces for coupons clipped from the daily paper." (p. 51) He collects coupons and receives the first shipment of "World's Greatest Symphonies." "The names of the orchestra and the conductor were not given. This particular set of records--it had no album, only paper sleeves--turned out to be the Haydn Symphony Number 99. He played it on the table-model phonograph, which he had gotten as a Christmas present during junior high. Up to then his musical taste had run to Spike Jones, and after that it more or less still did. But that particular symphony had an enormous impact on him; it had affected him to the soles of his feet. He played the three records until they turned white and wore away into noisy hissing." Those who grew up in the 50's will remember the kind of "record club" that distributed unidentified European recordings by mail, usually at very low prices. I still have several of them in my collection. What is troublesome about this reference to the Haydn symphony is that there is no apparent connection with anything else about Bruce Stevens's character. He never mentions it again and to the extent that he is portrayed as self-centered and inclined not to feel very much about anything (see Milton Lumky's rant on pages 150-163), this would have to qualify as one of the few times in the character's life that he responds to anything outside himself. A testimonial to the power of music in PKD's mind, if nothing else. Tom Dillingham From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Wed Jul 28 19:32:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail3.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id TAA05551 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id SAA06879 for pkd-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:06:21 -0700 Received: from WC.STEPHENS.EDU (wc.stephens.edu [204.185.32.1]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA06876 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:06:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:39:23 -0500 Message-Id: <99072820392370@wc.stephens.edu> From: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu (TOM DILLINGHAM) To: cjane01@students.bbk.ac.uk, PKD@jazzflavor.com Subject: [PKD] Musical References: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep X-VMS-To: SMTP%"cjane01@students.bbk.ac.uk" X-VMS-Cc: PKD@JAZZFLAVOR.COM,TOMDILL Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR The first page numbers below are from the Signet 1969 paperback; the second numbers are from the Del Rey 1982 version of _Blade Runner_ which may be a more accessible version. All but one of the musical references in DADOES are connected to the retiring of the android opera singer, Luba Luft. Almost all of those refer to roles in Mozart's operas, _The Magic Flute_ and _Don Giovanni_. 63/79: "I particularly would like to see her as Donna Anna in _Don Giovanni_. In my personal collection I have tapes by such old-time greats as Elizabeth Schwarzkopf and Lotte Lehmann and Lisa Della Casa . . ." 68-70/85-86: "As he entered he recognized the music: Mozart's _The Magic Flute_, the first act in its final scenes. The moor's slaves--in other words the chorus--had taken up their song a bar too soon and this had nullified the simple rhythm of the magic bells. What a pleasure; he loved _The Magic Flute_." [this passage continues, describing Rick responding to the words "Konnte jeder brave Mann/solche Gloeckchen finden" and he watched the rehearsal to its end, then goes to Luba Luft's dressing room] 71/90: Luba Luft says: "My accent . . . is perfect. It has to be for roles, for PURCELL, and WALTON, and VAUGHAN WILLIAMS. But my vocabulary isn't very large." 75/95 and 96/125: two more passing references to _The Magic Flute_. 114/150: Rick brings home the "black Nubian goat" and his wife reacts: "Iran said in an odd little voice, "'My life is love and pleasure.' An old, old song by Josef Strauss. Remember? When we first met?" 122/161: Rick at the hotel, waiting for Rachel: "Do androids dream?," Rick asked himself. Evidently; that's why they occasionally kill their employers and flee here. A better life. Without servitude. Like Luba Luft; singing _Don Giovanni_ and _Le Nozze_ instead of toiling across the face of a barren rock-strewn field." [Personal note: this surprised me--my memory suggested far more musical references in DADOES. Implanted? It seems to me that Rick's responses to musice are important in relation to a recurrent question about the book. PKD plants the love of music in characters he tends to like or approve of; in this case, he seems to suggest a connection between love of music and the capacity for empathy, which would weigh in on the side of Deckard being definitively human, not an android. Of course, this does not satisfy the questions about Deckard in _Blade Runner_, since music does not play the same role in the screenplay.] Tom Dillingham From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Wed Jul 28 20:41:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id UAA06174 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id TAA06956 for pkd-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:42:27 -0700 Received: from hamp.hampshire.edu (root@hamp.hampshire.edu [192.33.12.137]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06953 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:42:26 -0700 Received: from hamp (gpm97@hamp [192.33.12.137]) by hamp.hampshire.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA27160; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:32:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Gabriel McKee X-Sender: gpm97@hamp To: pkd@jazzflavor.com cc: cjane01@students.bbk.ac.uk Subject: [PKD] PKD music references: game-players of titan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR Here's the report for game-players, and if you don't want to read it you don't have to. to heck with votes. (also, I'd like to stake a claim for The Zap Gun, since "man whose teeth" is now taken.) There was surprisingly little to note in game-players, considering one of the main characters owns a record store. Most of what is mentioned comes in the form of a discussion between Joe Schilling and Pete Garden over who was a better tenor: Tito Schipa or Gigli (first name unknown, though I could find it out without too much trouble). This discussion occurs in ch. 4 (pages 26-30 in the 1992 vintage edition), and the specific pieces mentioned are _Don Pasquale_ (an opera by Goetano Donizetti), "thy tiny hand is frozen" (an aria from _La Boheme_ by Puccini), and _una Furtiva Lagrima_ (i;m not sure who the composer is for this one, i forgot to look it up). Also mentioned (by a customer in Schilling's store) is a recording of Claudia Muzio singing the Letter Scene from _La Traviata_ by Giuseppe Verdi. Late in the same chapter, Les and Es Sibley enter the store,and enter into a discussion with Pete Garden on vocal recordings. They metnion that they own a few Suprevia recordings-- I assume this is a label, rather than a performer. In the Vintage edition (p 29), Pete states that he considers Aksel Schitz singin _every Valley_ is the finest vocal recording ever made-- first, the piece is from Handel's _Messiah_, second, this is a typoo-- the tenor's name is Aksel Schiotz (or perhaps Askel, my notes are confusing me). Nats Katz, of course, is fictional. Also mentioned (p 34, but elsewhere as well) are HMV recordings--also presumably a record label. later (p 88), Schilling mentions that the McClains have bought Jussi Bjoerling records from him--another operatic tenor. In the final chapter, Schilling finds himself in Les and Es Sibley's house; they ask him about a record of Erna Berger performing the Queen of the Night aria from Die Zauberflote-- _The Magic Flute_ by W.A. Mozart. They are listening to a piece called _the Cherry Duet_ which Schilling cannot stand, but whether this is because of the piece itself or his mental state at the time is unclear. I was unable to locate a compser for this piece. The only other reference of note is a quotation in ch. 10 (p 107): "Things are seldom what they seem; Skim-milk masquerades as cream," attributed to W.S. Gilbert (of Gilbert and Sullivan) in the text, the line is from _HMS Pinafore_. The musical references in _Game-Players of Titan_ seem to serve the purpose of characterizing Schilling and Garden. But why tenors? For the most part, it comes across as Phil showing off his audiophile expertise. Gabriel. From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Wed Jul 28 21:41:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id VAA06052 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id UAA06981 for pkd-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:39:40 -0700 Received: from WC.STEPHENS.EDU (wc.stephens.edu [204.185.32.1]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA06978 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:39:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:25:36 -0500 Message-Id: <99072823253607@wc.stephens.edu> From: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu (TOM DILLINGHAM) To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: Re: [PKD] PKD music references: game-players of titan X-VMS-To: SMTP%"pkd@jazzflavor.com" X-VMS-Cc: TOMDILL Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR Just a couple of footnotes to Gabriel's excellent report on _Game Players of Titan_: It's Beniamino Gigli Suprevia is probably the great soprano Conchita Supervia "Una Furtiva Lagrima" is from Donizetti's _L'Elisir d'Amore" Erna Berger's performance of Queen of the Night is IMHO the greatest on record--really unsurpassed, though maybe Luba Luft could have equalled her The "Cherry Duet" is nagging my memory, but I can't place it. I agree that it is tempting to suspect PKD of parading his specialized knowledge of classical recordings, and that is probably reason enough for the dialogue, but that kind of information is a kind of currency among people who know it--an arty version of having the rarest baseball cards and knowing the stats on them--but I do think PKD usually has more on his mind when he puts that dialogue into his characters' mouths. _Game Players_ is so far in my past that I would have to re-read it to guess any other purpose except for the Gilbert and Sullivan quotation, which is from a wonderfully funny patter song about masquerades and deceptions offering a catalogue of "humble" objects masquerading as more "noble" or exalted objects (or people). Thematically that is very relevant, if I remember right, to _Game Players_. Tom Dillingham From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Thu Jul 29 01:38:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail5.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id BAA06995 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id AAA07081 for pkd-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:35:59 -0700 Received: from relay1.sfo.com (root@relay1.sfo.com [205.162.14.55]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07078 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:35:58 -0700 Received: from sfo.com (sf-005.sfo.com [206.14.28.5]) by relay1.sfo.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFO.r.04) with ESMTP id BAA24025 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37A00FB0.AF2BED45@sfo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:24:16 -0700 From: Jim Flannery X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: Re: [PKD] PKD music references: game-players of titan References: <99072823253607@wc.stephens.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR TOM DILLINGHAM wrote: > > the Gilbert and Sullivan quotation, which is > from a wonderfully funny patter song about masquerades > and deceptions offering a catalogue of "humble" objects > masquerading as more "noble" or exalted objects (or people). > Thematically that is very relevant, if I remember right, > to _Game Players_. And to _MitHC_, where the same line is a coded message from Tokyo to Mr. Tagomi, referring to the imminent arrival of Baynes/Wegener (tho here lacking (or even inverting) the humble/noble relation). Long as these are starting to pop up on the list, I might as well forward my notes on MitHC, following ... -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com "The pleasure of collecting is in achieving orderliness and completeness." -- Dr. Benjamin Spock From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Thu Jul 29 01:43:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail3.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id BAA04356 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id AAA07090 for pkd-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:37:56 -0700 Received: from relay1.sfo.com (root@relay1.sfo.com [205.162.14.55]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07087 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:37:55 -0700 Received: from sfo.com (sf-005.sfo.com [206.14.28.5]) by relay1.sfo.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFO.r.04) with ESMTP id BAA24102 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37A0102A.4F6EF89D@sfo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:26:18 -0700 From: Jim Flannery X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: [Fwd: [PKD] PKD and classical music (aka Me and My Big Mouth)] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------53AE65ED2F474CDA7278D242" Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------53AE65ED2F474CDA7278D242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit notes (no pun intended) on _Man in the High Castle_: --------------53AE65ED2F474CDA7278D242 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <37980049.52DFFDEB@sfo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:40:25 -0700 From: Jim Flannery X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Severyn Janes Subject: Re: [PKD] PKD and classical music (aka Me and My Big Mouth) References: <199907211542.IAA22419@netcom10.netcom.com> <3796C276.E4E43190@students.bbk.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OK, _Man in the High Castle_ pagination from 1981 Berkeley mass-market edition p. 18 Mr. Tagomi receives a coded message from Tokyo about Baynes/Wegener: The key phrase, 'skim milk in his diet,' referred to _Pinafore_, to the eerie song that expounded the doctrine, '...Things are seldom what they seem -- skim milk masquerades as cream.' (Gilbert & Sullivan) p. 79 death of Bormann announced: '... all Reich stations cancelled scheduled programs and listeners heard the solemn strains of the Chorus of the SS Division _Das Reich_ raised in the anthem of the Partei, the _Horst Wessel Lied_.' (composer?) p. 90 Tagomi panicked at meeting on Nazi succession: Think along reassuring lines. Recall order of world. What to draw on? Religion? He thought, now a govotte perform sedately. Capital both, capital both, you've caught it nicely. This is the style of the thing precisely. Small form of recognizable world, _Gondoliers_. G&S. He shut his eyes, imagined the D'oyle Carte Company as he had seen them on their tour after the war. The finite, finite world ... p. 99 Childan dines at the Kasouras: Seated on the soft carpet with their drinks, they listened to a recording of koto, Japanese thirteen-string harp. It was newly released by Japanese HMV, and quite popular. p. 104 same: Betty said, 'Most true. Average taste really deplorable.' 'As in music,' Paul said. 'No interest in authentic American folk jazz, as example. Robert, are you fond of say Bunk Johnson and Kid Ory and the like? Early Dixieland jazz? I have record library of old such music, original Genet recordings. Robert said, 'Afraid I know little about Negro music.' They did not look exactly pleased with his remark. 'I prefer classical. Bach and Beethoven.' Surely that was acceptable. He felt now a bit of resentment. Was he supposed to deny the great masters of European music, the timeless classics in favor of New Orleans jazz from the honky-tonks and bistros of the Negro quarter? 'Perhaps if I play selection by New Orleans Rhythm Kings,' Paul began, starting from the room, but Betty gave him a warning look. He hesitated, shrugged. pp. 148-9 Juliana and Joe enroute to Denver: The car radio played mushy beer-garden folk music, an accordion band doing one of the countless polkas or schottishes; she had never been able to tell them one from another. 'Kitsch,' Joe said, when the music ended. 'Listen I know a lot about music; I'll tell you who a great conductor was. You probably don't remember him. Arturo Toscanini.' 'No,' she said, still reading. 'He was Italian. But the Nazis wouldn't let him conduct after the war, because of his politics. He's dead, now. I don't like that von Karajan, permanent conductor of the New York Philharmonic. We had to go to concerts by him, our work dorm. What I like, being a wop -- you can guess.' He glanced at her. 'You like that book?' he said. 'It's engrossing.' 'I like Verdi and Puccini. All we get in New York is heavy German bombastic Wagner and Orff, and we have to go every week to one of those corny U.S. Nazi Party dramatic spectacles at Madison Square Garden, with the flags and drums and trumpets and the flickering flame. History of the Gothic tribes or other educational crap, chanted instead of spoken, so as to be called "art." Did you ever see New York before the war?' p. 160 Baynes/Wegener, on being informed of Yatabe/Tedeki's arrival: As soon as he had shaved, Mr. Baynes hopped into the shower. As water roared around him he sang at the top of his lungs: 'Wer reitet so spat, Durch Nacht and den Wind? Es ist der Vater Mit seinem Kind.' (Goethe's _Erlkönig_, presumably Schubert) pp. 218-9 Tagomi wrestles with Frank's pin in Portsmouth Square: Curse at it, he told himself. Frighten it. 'My patience is running out,' he said sotto voce. And what then? Fling you in the gutter? Breathe on it, shake it, breathe on it. Win me the game. He laughed. Addlepated involvement, here in warm sunlight. Spectacle to whoever comes along. Peeking about guiltily, now. But no one saw. Old men snoozing. Measure of relief, there. Tried everything, he realized. Pleaded, contemplated, threatened, philosophized at length. What else can be done? Could I but stay here. It is denied me. Opportunity will perhaps occur again. And yet, as W.S. Gilbert says, such an opportunity will _not_ occur again. Is that so? I feel it to be so. (_Patience_, act 1 finale: Come, walk up, and purchase with avidity, Overcome your diffidence and natural timidity, Tickets for the raffle should be purchased with avidity, Put in half a guinea and a husband you may gain-- Such a judge of blue-and-white and other kinds of pottery-- From early Oriental down to modern terra-cottary-- Put in half a guinea -- you may draw him in a lottery-- Such an opportunity may not occur again. ) (does this count?): p. 223 same: Focus on silver triangle once more, he told himself when he could breathe. Scrutinize it forcefully and count. At ten, utter startling noise. _Erwache_, for example. p. 242 Abendsen explains why he left the castle: 'I thought you lived in a fortress,' Juliana said. Bending to regard her, Hawthorne Abendsen smiled a meditative smile. 'Yes, we did. But we had to get up to it in an elevator and I developed a phobia. I was pretty drunk when I got the phobia but as I recall it, and they tell it, I refused to stand up in it because I said that the elevator cable was being hauled up by Jesus Christ, and we were going all the way. And I was determined not to stand.' She did not understand. Caroline explained, 'Hawth has said as long as I've known him that when he finally sees Christ he is going to sit down; he's not going to stand." The hymn, Juliana remembered. (If this is a reference to a hymn in the book, I missed it completely; the Protestant chestnut, 'Stand Up, Stand Up for Jesus,' perhaps?) -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com "The pleasure of collecting is in achieving orderliness and completeness." -- Dr. Benjamin Spock --------------53AE65ED2F474CDA7278D242-- From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Thu Jul 29 09:34:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id JAA09467 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id IAA07330 for pkd-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:30:30 -0700 Received: from WC.STEPHENS.EDU (wc.stephens.edu [204.185.32.1]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA07327 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:30:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:07:27 -0500 Message-Id: <99072911072790@wc.stephens.edu> From: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu (TOM DILLINGHAM) To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: Re: [PKD] PKD music references: game-players of titan X-VMS-To: SMTP%"pkd@jazzflavor.com" X-VMS-Cc: TOMDILL Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR "seem to serve the purpose of characterizing Schilling and Garden. But why tenors?" Well, tenors and sopranos. I think the simple version--just to offer details about the characters along with showing off audiophilia--is probably a good hypothesis that would apply to more than one of the instances in the various novels. But I would venture one other possibility. We know that the transience of physical objects, especially, but also of institutions and even human identities, is a major concern in PKD. ("kipple" in DADOES, the failing "printer," the Mare Nostrum as a realm of death in _Pot-Healer_, everything in _Ubik_ and so on and on) If I remember _Game Players_ right, various forms of games of chance (the ultimate in uncertainty, dependence on "luck," sudden gain, instant loss--total transformation of the way things are in a split second) dominate the social, political, economic conditions created by the Vugs. PKD seems to have seen something that is very visible in the US and has been for a while--the "collecting impulse" that prompts people to amass old things that in themselves seem to preserve a more "genuine" or "honest" or aesthetically pleasing past. (Since I am in the middle of _Counter-Clock World_ at the moment, this would suggest that one of PKD's ultimate nightmares would bhe be the inevitable erasure of all art and culture as well as technology in a time-reverse situation.) The people who try to hold on to " old things" (the Americana sold as antique treasures in MitHC, for example) are trying--against impossible odds== to maintain a connection with things that seem to be part of the definition of a true "human" world by contrast with the "plastic" or inhuman constructs, always impermanent, "always already" decayed (as in "planned obsolescence" or "instant obsolescence" in the case of computer technology). Maybe the ultimate "victory" in that effort would be the successful work of Joe Fernwright who is able to restore potsherds to their original perfection. The essential image of the ravages of time--broken pieces of pottery--can be reversed in the pot-healer's profession. This is getting pretty long, but one of the things I suspect is that PKD is working with a notion that somehow great works of art--music, especially, and poetry, maybe others, though he is not as likely to allude to visual arts (even with the Munch exhibition in DADOES)--may have a kind of permanence and imperishability not granted to other physical or human creations. Specifically, as in sound recording, especially (or in pot-healing) the artistic achievements can outlive the physical artists and those who appreciate and preserve the recordings (the audiophiles) contribute to the preservation. (This makes Mavis McGuire a truly appalling villain as she ruthlessly obliterates all such records.) It's just a thought. Tom Dillingham From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Tue Jul 27 18:06:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail5.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id SAA14710 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id RAA05497 for pkd-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:03:09 -0700 Received: from WC.STEPHENS.EDU (wc.stephens.edu [204.185.32.1]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05494 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:03:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:58:04 -0500 Message-Id: <99072719580423@wc.stephens.edu> From: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu (TOM DILLINGHAM) To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: [PKD] So nobody seemed much opposed X-VMS-To: SMTP%"pkd@jazzflavor.com" Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR From: COSMO::TOMDILL "TOM DILLINGHAM" 26-JUL-1999 19:27:02.30 To: SMTP%"cjane01@students.bbk.ac.uk" CC: TOMDILL Subj: Galactic Pot-Healer Musical references I am using the Berkeley Medallion printing from 1974 (02569-095) so the page numbers refer to this printing. p. 15: Joe Fernwright says: "BEETHOVEN'S music is firmly rooted in reality. That's what makes him unique. On the other hand, genius as he was, MOZART . . ." p. 42: "When he awoke he heard only the sound of the MAHLER "Fourth" and a low murmur of voices." (Note--at this point of the story, the hero is awakening on board a spaceship during his first trip off earth; Mahler's Fourth symphony includes a song, "Das Himmlische Leben," in which the voice of a child describes the pleasures of living in heaven; it is about shunning what is earthly, and certainly fits thematically with Joe's situation. Also, the second movement of the symphony is sometimes described as a "danse macabre" or dance of death. That is also thematically tied to the situation on Plowman's Planet with the Glimmung.) p. 103: Willis the robot rants about the grossness of radio broadcasts including advertising: "They're playing BEETHOVEN'S "Ninth" Then there's a commercial for a hernia belt. Then the Good Friday music from WAGNER'S _Parsifal_. Then an ad for an ointment that cures athlete's foot. Then a chorale from the BACH cantata _Jesu du Meine Seele_. Then an ad for a rectal suppository used in the treatment of piles. Then PERGOLESI'S _Stabat Mater_. Then an ad for a false= teeth dentifrice. Then the 'Sanctus' from the Verdi _Requiem_. Then a laxative ad. Then the 'Gloria' section from HAYDN'S _Mass in Time of War_. Then an ad for an analgesic used for female monthly disorders. Then a chorale from the _Saint Matthew Passion_. Then an ad for cat litter." (note--I forgot to capitalize VERDI; also, it is clear that the robot also prefers to "shun" earthly physical things in favor of the more celestial music--all the pieces mentioned have a focus on the heavenly and divine.) pp. 112-113: Joe thinks of the line "Cursed with an appetite keen I am" and then remembers: "From _Princess Ida," he said to no one. "Sung by Cyril in act two, in the gardens of Castle Adamant." Joe goes on to suspect that since Willis the robot had quoted Yeats, "Surely it would be equally familiar with W.S. Gilbert." later pp. 126-127: Joe again thinks of W.S. Gilbert and tells the story of his accidental death trying to rescue a drowning girl. Since Joe tries to rescue the Glimmung from the sea (that's "Mr. Glimmung" to us, I guess), there is a thematic connection I admit that there is no direct reference to Sir Arthur Sullivan, who is actually the composer involved, but the use of the title of the opera certainly constitutes a direct reference to his work. Special Note: There is a question about a possible "reference" so indirect as to be open to challenge, but I think it is important. The Glimmung recruits/kidnaps a substantial number of experts because he/she wants to raise a cathedral from the ocean floor (from the floor of Mare Nostrum) on his planet. One of the more famous piano pieces (also arranged for orchestry) of Debussy is "La Cathedrale Englouti" or The Sunken Cathedral. While it remains to be seen whether PKD ever mentions the name Debussy in his work, I would strongly suspect that the story of the sunken cathedral was in his mind as he wrote this and that Debussy's music must have been familiar to him, whether he liked it or not. The absence of a direct reference to Debussy may be important, but except for an understandable reluctance to get embroiled in constant explanations of the piece, the only reason I can think of for avoiding the reference would be that Debussy might not have been a composer PKD admired. I suspect he did not, in fact, based on his other tastes. So much for _Galactic Pot-Healer_. Tom Dillingham From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Thu Jul 29 14:52:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail5.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id OAA17281 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id NAA07704 for pkd-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:20:55 -0700 Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.59.113]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07701 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:20:41 -0700 Received: from lynn (PHL2B109-22.splitrock.net [209.252.176.118]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA114616; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:10:27 -0400 Message-ID: <001001beda06$57e90320$76b0fcd1@lynn> From: "Lynn D Dewees" To: "Severyn Janes" , Subject: [PKD] Mary and the Giant Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:04:55 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR Here is my summary of the musical references from May and the Giant. I'm posting to the list AND directly to Severyn. This goes on at some length.... This is a novel centered around a music shop owner, a folk singer and a pianist.....there's music references EVERYWHERE!!!!! Unless it was obvious to me that the song / singer / composer was made up for purposes of the novel, I've listed it here. Many of the references are unknown to me. What I'd really like to do next is track down some of these recordings to see HOW they actually fit (if they do) with the scenes. Working from the St. Martin's Press, Paperback edition of the novel Page 20... introducing characters and settings..... "I thought I heard, " he [Paul Nitz, pianist, major character, possible candidate for Giant of the title] murmered, "Buddy Bolden say." Into the texture of his music he wove a hint of the old Dixie tune. The thread, elaborated and diminsihed, was lost in the dominant theme: the bop tune "Sleep". Page 32.... setting up a relationship between two of the main characters...... Tweany [Carleton B. Tweany, local black folk singer, and one of several potential candidates for The Giant of the title] went over and turned on the radio. The sound of Sara Vaughan drifted out and into the living room." Page 33.... continuation of previous characterization...... "Sing 'Water Boy.'"She [Mary Anne Reynolds, the Mary of the title] smiled at him. "I like that.... Page 54....Chapter opening, setting the scene for a meeting between several of the main protagonists, at the music store owned by Joseph Schilling....... "In the display window was a photograph of Walter Gieseking and two long playing records half-slid from their bright covers"....."The Saint-Saens Organ Symphony echoed through the open doorway" Page 61.... character / setting...preparing the way for important event later in novel......... "In the corner, her [Phyllis Squire, minor character] white enamel radio played a Perez Prado mambo. Page 64....establishing relationship between two main characters......... "I'm a bop player." Nitz reddened and avoided the girl's accusing stare. "To me, folk music is like Dixie: a dead hores. It stopped growing back in the days of James Merrit Ives....." "What about 'Old Man River'?" Tweany sang "Ol' Man River' at least once a night and it was one of her favorites. At that, Nitz grinned. "See what I mean? 'Ol Man River' was written by Jerome Kern." "For my first number," Tweany rumbled in his furry sing-song ,"I will sing a work that expressses the bitter terror of the Negro people in their ages of bondage. You may have heard it before." He paused. "'Strange Fruit.'" Page 65.......Character development and setting the scene for crucial events of next chapter.... Carelton Tweany thereupon sang "Got Grasshoppers in My Pillow, Baby, Got Crickets All In My Meal" "For my last number," Tweany declared when he had finished, "I shall sing a composition that has found special favor in the hearts of all Americans, both Caucasian and Negro. It is a song that unites all of us in memories as we near the moment in which we celebrate the birth of One Who died to redeem us all, whatever our race, whatever our color." Half-closing his eyes, Tweany sang "White Christmas" Page 67.......The following pages (67,69,70,71) show some of the relationships between the important characters as the story builds to an important plateau...... "That song about grasshoppers...that's an old Leadbelly tune, isn't it?" Half-listening to Nitz and the blond woman [Elizabeth Coombs, important secondary character] rambling on about Blind Lemon Jefferson... Page 69 NOTE: In the quote below, Sid Hethel is a very minor character in the novel and therefore probably not a real composer. I'm not sure about the other two names. "It's not old. It's still going on; the same material you're doing, only they don't call it by the same name.Milhaud, up in Oakland. And Roger Sessions is at Berkeley; go listen to him. Sid Hethel is at Palo Alto...." Page 70 "I thought it was nothing but Mozart," Nitz said. Page 71 "A gentleman" Tweany stated. "We had quite an interesting talk about Bascam Lamar Lunsford. He played an ancient Lunsford record for me, cut around 1927...." Page 90 ....This chapter is a critical event, creating waves and ripples through much of the rest of the novel.... NOTE: The musical references on pages 90, 91 and 92 come fast and furious and lead the assembled group into a wild frenzy, practically an orgy, which is finally broken up by the arrival of the police. I don't know any of the music involved....I wonder if the music builds in the same way as the party. "Shut up, Danny", Beth said good-naturedly, beginning a progression that formed into a Faure ballad. Beth showed a great shower of musical sparks; a Chopin prelude, followed at once by the opening of the Liszt B-flat sonata. "Do you know Shubert's 'Erlkonig'?" Beth asked, playing furiously. Beth hurried back to the piano and struck up the opening chords of a Chopin "Polonaise" Page 91 "Look at me!" Lemming [Chad Lemming, folk singer, very minor character] shouted, waving his arms and panting for breath. "What am I? Tell me what I am!" Beth began to play "Poor Butterfly" Page 92 At the moment, they were playing "John Henry" Page 101.... Daniel Coombs is sitting in his car with a loaded weapon, waiting to kill Tweany..... Clicking on the car radio, he [Daniel Coombs, cuckolded husband of Elizabeth] tuned in the good music station at San Mateo and listened to the Brahms Third Symphony. Now they were playing the Berlioz Roman Carnival Overture. He wondered if there was an opear called Roman Carnival or if it was one of *those* overtures. For the space of one Berlioz overture Coombs considered driving around to the record shop.... Page 105....A lull in the story, more character development and a repeat of the song "Sleep"..... "I think we were in a class together." He turned up a radio by hius elbow. "Dig this." Progressive jazz drifted out and mixed with the sounds of traffic. "Recognize it?" "Naturally. Earl Bostic's 'Sleep.'" Page 113......Setting the scene for the next important event in the novel......... >From the records on the counter he [Joseph Schilling, main character, record store owner, second candidate for Giant of the title] selected Handel's Water Muic and started in playing. Page 118...Schilling talking to Nitz. Character development of Nitz....... "Ever heard of a fellow named Arnie Scheinberg?" "Schonberg", Schilling corrected. He couldn't tell if he was being made fun of. "Arnold Schonberg. He wrote the Gurrelieder." Page 120......Schilling talking to Mary Anne after hiring her at his store.......... "Suppose I came in here and say to you: 'I heard a Bach piano concerto played on the violin. What is it?' Could you do anything with that?" Page 121......Same scene as above.................. "...Suppose someone comes in and asks you for a good Dvorak symphony. You better be sure how many he wrote, which are the best recordings and what we have in stock. And you've got to know Smetana and Brahms and Suk and Mahler and all the other composers a buyer of Dvorak might enjoy." "Listen to what your friend is playing." The rattle of a Chavez percussion experiment was audible. Page 129..........Schilling and Mary Anne on their way to a record dealer's party....... "I like that, " she said, inclining her head. "Do you recognize it?" She meditated. "Beethoven." "It's the Hayden Drumroll Symphony." Page 131......At the party............. Over the mutter of voices roared the titanic Mahler Symphony No. 1 NOTE: Also on this page is a discussion of the "Diotronic binaural system" for playing recordings....This sounds to me like what would eventually become known as stereo? Anyone else know for sure? Page 153.......Schilling and Mary Anne at a diner, after consumating their relationship....... "Look - these are all jump tunes. All 'Jazz at the Phil' stuff...could I play one? Could I play this Roy Brown tune? 'Good Rockin'Tonight,'it's called. Would you mind?" Page 163........At Mary Anne's apartment, leading up to major events........... "What;s that?" Mary Anne asked. "That music." "A Chopin piano concert." "Isn't in good?" "It's somewhat cheap." NOTE: I don't know whether he is saying the piano concerto is cheap or the rendition is cheap. "Oh," She nodded. "Will you tell me which ones are cheap?" "Gladly; that's half the fun. Anybody can enjoy music; it's disliking it that takes training." "I have some records," she said, "but they're all pops and jump tunes. Cal Tjader and Oscar Peterson. My roommate listens to mambo records." Page 165.......Schilling and Mary Anne enjoying a peaceful moment, sort of a calm before the storm......... He put on his big Magnavox phonograph, set the record changer for seventy-eight speed, and then, while it was warming up, entered the pantry and looked over his wine. Without consulting her he selected a bottle of Mackenzie's Fino Perla sherry, found two small wineglasses and returned to the living room. Presently they were spawled out listening to Heinrich Schlusnus singing "Der Nussmaum" ...he put on another record and retured to his chair. She listened attentively until it was over and he was turning the record. :What was that?" she asked. "Askel Schiotz." Then he added the title of the work. NOTE: From about page 165 to page 224, all of the plot elements wind up and are (mostly) sorted out. No music is mentioned throughout this critical part of the book.... Page 224....Beginning of denouement.........Nitz is speaking to Mary Anne...... "Plenty of times. I'll take you to the Hangover Club to hear Kid Ory." Page 228.....Next to final scene of the novel................Mary Anne is sitting in the park talking to a stranger............ "...haven't heard any music in the last few years, not since the war, that can compare to Richard Tauber." "That's square," Mary Anne said, playing with the baby's hand. "Isn't it, Paul?" "And Jeanette MacDonald," the kindly middle-aged lady said nostalgically. "I'll never forget her and Nelson Eddy in Maytime. From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Fri Jul 30 01:19:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id BAA18839 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id AAA08114 for pkd-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:19:19 -0700 Received: from lyra.tiscalinet.it (lyra.tiscalinet.it [195.130.224.60]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA08111 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:19:17 -0700 Received: from ubik (rm1-410.tiscalinet.it [212.123.79.30]) by lyra.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13790 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:08:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199907300808.KAA13790@lyra.tiscalinet.it> From: "Umberto Rossi" To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:09:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PKD] PKD music references: game-players of titan In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR > Tito Schipa or Gigli (first name unknown, though I > could find it out without too much trouble). Tito Schipa is one of the great Italian tenors of the 20s and 30s, not a good as Beniamino Gigli or Mario del Monaco (the greatest with Caruso), but outstanding all the same. >This discussion occurs in > ch. 4 (pages 26-30 in the 1992 vintage edition), and the specific pieces > mentioned are _Don Pasquale_ (an opera by Goetano Donizetti), "thy tiny > hand is frozen" (an aria from _La Boheme_ by Puccini), So that's the rendering of "quella gelida manina"? Awful! > and _una Furtiva > Lagrima_ (i;m not sure who the composer is for this one, i forgot to look > it up). Una furtiva lacrima. I *guess* it's Puccini but here I might be wrong. > Late in the same chapter, Les and Es Sibley enter the > store,and enter into a discussion with Pete Garden on vocal recordings. > They metnion that they own a few Suprevia recordings-- I assume this is a > label, rather than a performer. I am a bit of a melomane myself, but never herd about a singer with that name; besides, it does not appear in my small encyclopedia of music. > HMV recordings--also > presumably a record label. His Master's Voice, a famous classical music label now disappeared, which was translated in Italy as La voce del padrone. Umberto Rossi "...io vedea la virtute esser spenta, e i vizi sollevati" Gerolamo Savonarola From owner-pkd@odyssey.jazzflavor.com Sat Jul 17 00:47:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from odyssey.jazzflavor.com (odyssey.jazzflavor.com [207.76.185.227]) by mail5.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id AAA03151 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 00:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id XAA27878 for pkd-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:24:07 -0700 Received: from mail2.ccs.bbk.ac.uk (mail2.ccs.bbk.ac.uk [193.61.22.7]) by odyssey.jazzflavor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA27875 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:24:05 -0700 Received: from mail1.ccs.bbk.ac.uk by mail2.ccs.bbk.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:13:27 +0100 Received: from port03.dialup.bbk.ac.uk by mail1.ccs.bbk.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <19833-0@mail1.ccs.bbk.ac.uk>; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:17:17 +0100 Message-ID: <379028FE.9FBF1FB8@students.bbk.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:55:58 +0100 From: Severyn Janes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Subject: Re: [PKD] PKD and classical music References: <99071614031379@wc.stephens.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pkd@jazzflavor.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pkd@jazzflavor.com Status: OR Maybe each of us could read 1 book each for the musical references, and then we could put them all together on the list. There must be enough people here to make that work, and reading 1 PKD book shouldn't be too arduous. Severyn TOM DILLINGHAM wrote: > > The suggestion from Steven Lewis is a fascinating one, but would > be an arduous task--there are so many musical (and poetic) > references scattered through the novels and stories--collecting > them all would take a lot of time,